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How do we practice using, Unconditional Love,, in our everyday life.

Good morning, my friend. How are you? Today it`s a very beautiful day here in Brasil, a blue sky, and warm weather, so, I m feeling good. I was thinking, how could we practice uncondicional love in our day by day. I mean, what attitudes (?) and behaviors to show to everybody and everything our feelings. Other thing that use to worry me, it is when somebody begins to talk about his/her tragedies, and diseases, and all problems around the world. I feel upset, because I think we always have choice to see beautiful things or stay in drama, but sometimes looks a little insensitive, do you understand me? What do you think about this? Elizabeth

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Dear Elizabeth,
I am so excited that you asked that question, because most people are afraid to even deal with the topic of unconditional love. You see, one has to know what unconditional love really is before they are able to use it in their life. So your first step is to teach yourself what unconditional love is-----TO YOU. Know what unconditional love is to yourself will help you use it, in your life and when talking to others and their life. Is it ok, if I put all of this in the forum, because it might help others understand the samething, but if not that is ok also. It is totality up to you. I will always talk with you when you wish to talk. Ok, then I will get back with you because this is the topic that will accelerate your spirituality beyond your comprehension. Ok let me know. This is going to be great, talking with you. RON

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Hi Ron

I ll try to clarify to my self what uncondicional love means to me. Sometimes its is say to my self, ok, i love this person in spite of she/he is boring, agressive, because she/he is immature , and one day she/he will realize that this is not the way. another way to think about is, Well, since everything and everybody and situations are mirrors of my self, when I did like she or he. How can I learn something with this. of course its, sometimes its not easy and I turn upset or angry, but I keep tryng. Ok, its only the beginning....
Uncondicional love for you, my friend
from Elizabeth

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Dear Elizabeth,
One of the first things that I need to tell you is, that I talk with my soul and when my soul gives me an answer to a question, I have to change it into words. My soul and I communicate with thoughts, and our language doesn't always have the words to fit our limited language. What an individual needs to know about one's self is that this world is an illusion, that we have created, so that we can experience, WHO WE REALLY ARE. WE ARE ALL ONE, which means that we are all a part of, GOD, the ALL, or what ever higher being you belief inn. So if we are all one, then what is the, All one made of, or is, ????? Well I call this being, GOD, others can call it what ever they chose. Now, GOD, is just one thing, and one thing only, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. WE are here to experience, WHO WE REALLY ARE, so we must be nothing but UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. You see, GOD knows everything that will happen, has happened, or ever going to happen and how it's all put together. The one thing that GOD can't do is EXPERIENCE, what he/she knows, or is. So God created the universe, so that he/she, can experience all that he/she knows. So the GOD head created an ILLUSION, ( the universe), so that he/she can EXPERIENCE all that he/she knows. Well after creating this universe, he sent pieces of him/herself out into the universe, to EXPERIENCE, what he/she knows. This is what is called our SOULS, which makes us part of GOD, which means that we are all one. As we started experiencing all the things that we know, as gods, we started to enjoy all that we were experiencing, and we FORGOT THAT WE WERE A PART OF GOD, and that is where we are today. We have forgotten that we are a part of GOD, and we think that we are a part, of the illusion, which is the universe, as we know it, but in true reality we are living in an illusion, that we have created, and that we are nothing but, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. If you notice, one of the concepts of understanding what UNCONDITIONAL LOVE is, is PERSPECTIVES. This will be one of the BIGGEST tools to you using and practicing, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, in your life. So if you change your PERSPECTIVE, as one who is looking, at this world, from a GOD perspective, then you will start to view it totality different. Most people who you tell to look at this world from a GOD perspective, will start to think of having POWER, CONTROL, MONEY, but the ones who are wise enough to not do that, and think of the true GOD, as nothing but, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, they will be the ones who will, EXPERIENCE, BEING ONE WITH GOD.

So it looks like one of the first things that we have to do, to make this world a better place, is realize, WHO WE REALLY ARE, which is nothing but UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, and look at this world from that PERSPECTIVE.

The problem is, we have forgotten what unconditional love really is, hence we have forgotten, WHO WE REALLY ARE. So a good place to start REMEMBERING, WHO WE REALLY ARE, is finding out what, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE REALLY IS.

Now I have put several things in the forum, for others to read on what unconditional love is, and I am asking others who read this for their input. Please read the information on unconditional love, in the rest of the form to help you understand how to use, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE within your life. ------------------I will put more in this thread, because I realize that this is a lot to digest. RON

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Dear Elizabeth,
If you look at your friends from, your perspective, of this world, as not being an illusion, and being reality, then you will use all the tools that you have been TAUGHT, since you have been in this world, to help change this world. The problem is, those tools usually call, for using eveything, except unconditional love, to solve the problems, of the world. Maybe, we are at the point in our lives to where we need to do it a different way, and that is where you some people are today. This other way, is REMEMBERING, WHO WE REALLY ARE, (UNCONDITIONAL LOVE ), AND APPLYING THAT TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS OF OUR FRIENDS AND THE WORLD. Now one of the ways that I am practicing this new type of understanding of life, is to change my perspective, is to invision the spiritual world as ABSOLUTE world, and this world as we see it. So an ABSOLUTE WORLD, WHICH IS THE SPIRITUAL WORLD, is one thing, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, and that is ABSOLUTE TRUTH, AND ABSOLUTE FREEDOM. That is all, there are no gray areas in a world of absolute. In our world, that we call reality, we have a lot of gray areas, that we apply to our lives. So if we think about killing, as wrong, most people will start to say yes, killing is wrong, then they will apply a gray area, to their thinking, so that they can kill, in the name of GOD, or for any other reason that they feel, that will benefit them. Within these areas, is how, WE, create illusions, and we apply that type of thinking to everday life. We stretch the meaning until we don't have a diffident understanding of what we started out with. This also applies to what we call LOVE. We can love our car, we can love our house , we love our husbands, wives, kids, and so on, but if we say, I unconditionally love my car, well that doesn't makes any scence. Although some people can apply a gray area to that, also. If I say, I unconditionally love my wife, husband, kids, then it causes us to take a completely different perspective, at what we are saying. It causes us to see that there is no gray areas, within the unconditional loving area. This type of thinking, without gray areas, or absolute thinking, is one perspective that we need to practice within our lives, so that we will start to change our perspective to one of THINKING WITHIN THE ABSOLUTE. When we change our thoughts, to help create a different thought, then the one, that we have been taught, since being born, then we are starting to change the world. It's our thoughts that need to change, before, we can change anything else, within our world. If you can understand what I have just written, and it resonates with you, Great, if not, or you just don't understand, please ask me some more questions, because sometimes I get caught up in translating my souls thoughts, and forget what I am actually typing. I am open to all inputs. Thank you again elizabeth, you are a true angel. Spiritual Scientist, RON

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Dear Elizabeth, This is my first glance at this new forum and your question was here. I am going to say, you are on the right track--everytime we repeat a tragedy or even a disappointment--we give it more strength. The habit however of people is to commisserate. We want everyone to know our story. We want to prove our problems are more than yours.
When we learn universal love, none of these will matter--we will see them as growing experiences and trials unique to us. NO one can solve it for us or tell us what it means. We are here to encourage,love and pray for each other--with nothing more than a please and thankyou. Curiosity of your problems is not unconditional love and therefore I would not be a part of the enlightened and worthy of your friendship. The God in me loves you. Carol

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Dear Ron, I read your comments. Phew---did you ever make this complicated! IF GOD knows all-sees all- does all
and knows the past and present and future-----AND---we are a part of GOD....Then my dear we cannot be GOD. We are only the experiential part of His being.. We may not know WHY we do certain things, but as we experience them HE
gets to feel and discern them. We however have to figure it out for ourselves... Thats our job. Unconditional love is a part of growing into the understanding of that job. Unconditional Love is not the endall for us. That can only be accomplished by martyrdom. Are you ready for the next step? Then you wouldnt be questioning it or trying to understand it.
UNCONditional LOVE is in the DOING not in the studying---as long as you are searching you are not there!
Enjoy the search and dont get so complicated LOVE Carol

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Very well stated Ron.


Kiawe Ron said:
Dear Elizabeth,
One of the first things that I need to tell you is, that I talk with my soul and when my soul gives me an answer to a question, I have to change it into words. My soul and I communicate with thoughts, and our language doesn't always have the words to fit our limited language. What an individual needs to know about one's self is that this world is an illusion, that we have created, so that we can experience, WHO WE REALLY ARE. WE ARE ALL ONE, which means that we are all a part of, GOD, the ALL, or what ever higher being you belief inn. So if we are all one, then what is the, All one made of, or is, ????? Well I call this being, GOD, others can call it what ever they chose. Now, GOD, is just one thing, and one thing only, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. WE are here to experience, WHO WE REALLY ARE, so we must be nothing but UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. You see, GOD knows everything that will happen, has happened, or ever going to happen and how it's all put together. The one thing that GOD can't do is EXPERIENCE, what he/she knows, or is. So God created the universe, so that he/she, can experience all that he/she knows. So the GOD head created an ILLUSION, ( the universe), so that he/she can EXPERIENCE all that he/she knows. Well after creating this universe, he sent pieces of him/herself out into the universe, to EXPERIENCE, what he/she knows. This is what is called our SOULS, which makes us part of GOD, which means that we are all one. As we started experiencing all the things that we know, as gods, we started to enjoy all that we were experiencing, and we FORGOT THAT WE WERE A PART OF GOD, and that is where we are today. We have forgotten that we are a part of GOD, and we think that we are a part, of the illusion, which is the universe, as we know it, but in true reality we are living in an illusion, that we have created, and that we are nothing but, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. If you notice, one of the concepts of understanding what UNCONDITIONAL LOVE is, is PERSPECTIVES. This will be one of the BIGGEST tools to you using and practicing, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, in your life. So if you change your PERSPECTIVE, as one who is looking, at this world, from a GOD perspective, then you will start to view it totality different. Most people who you tell to look at this world from a GOD perspective, will start to think of having POWER, CONTROL, MONEY, but the ones who are wise enough to not do that, and think of the true GOD, as nothing but, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, they will be the ones who will, EXPERIENCE, BEING ONE WITH GOD.

So it looks like one of the first things that we have to do, to make this world a better place, is realize, WHO WE REALLY ARE, which is nothing but UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, and look at this world from that PERSPECTIVE.

The problem is, we have forgotten what unconditional love really is, hence we have forgotten, WHO WE REALLY ARE. So a good place to start REMEMBERING, WHO WE REALLY ARE, is finding out what, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE REALLY IS.

Now I have put several things in the forum, for others to read on what unconditional love is, and I am asking others who read this for their input. Please read the information on unconditional love, in the rest of the form to help you understand how to use, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE within your life. ------------------I will put more in this thread, because I realize that this is a lot to digest. RON

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Hello Carol. I really appreciate yours comments. How you said, the journey is always the most important, and I will keep trying and going, and feel happy one day and another I cry a little, but it had been funny, and I had had many happiness in my lie, since I had open my heart to the world. Thank you. I really love all of you !!!!!!!!!!Elizabeth
Carol (Randy) Graham said:
Dear Elizabeth, This is my first glance at this new forum and your question was here. I am going to say, you are on the right track--everytime we repeat a tragedy or even a disappointment--we give it more strength. The habit however of people is to commisserate. We want everyone to know our story. We want to prove our problems are more than yours.
When we learn universal love, none of these will matter--we will see them as growing experiences and trials unique to us. NO one can solve it for us or tell us what it means. We are here to encourage,love and pray for each other--with nothing more than a please and thankyou. Curiosity of your problems is not unconditional love and therefore I would not be a part of the enlightened and worthy of your friendship. The God in me loves you. Carol

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Carol (Randy) Graham said:


Dear Ron, I read your comments. Phew---did you ever make this complicated! IF GOD knows all-sees all- does all
and knows the past and present and future-----AND---we are a part of GOD....Then my dear we cannot be GOD.

Dear Carol, I read your comments and I am confused. If we are a part of a whole, then we are made up of the same thing as the whole, even if we are separated from that whole. If you take a glass of water out of the ocean, and take it away from the ocean, it is still made up of the same thing that the ocean is made up of, it does not change, because it is not part of the whole. It is still the ocean, no matter how far you take it away from the ocean. Now from my perspective, we are a part of GOD, that part is my soul, my soul is the same as GOD, and is a direct connection to GOD. God to me is nothing but Unconditional love, and unconditional love has no limits, it is endless, and being that our soul is a part of GOD, then we are nothing but, unconditional love. We are a part of the whole, a part of unconditional love.


We are only the experiential part of His being.. We may not know WHY we do certain things, but as we experience them HE
gets to feel and discern them.


We are here to experience, WHO WE REALLY ARE, Being GOD. God knows all, past present and future, but she can not experience, what she/he knows, that is why the universe was created, so GOD could experience her/he self. When we start to understand this fact, we begin to UNDERSTAND why we do certain things. Understanding WHY, we do certain things, helps us understand, or EXPERIENCE WHO WE REALLY ARE. Unconditional love.

We however have to figure it out for ourselves...
From my perspective, this is true, and that is how we use knowledge, to figure it all out. So, when we learn about, WHO WE REALLY ARE, then we are able to experience, who we really are, which in turn creates, WISDOM. This means that KNOWLEDGE and EXPERIENCE, creates WISDOM, and wisdom is an endless term, which goes along with unconditional love. It all completes a circle.

Thats our job Unconditional love is a part of growing into the understanding of that job. Unconditional Love is not the endall for us.

Unconditional love is not a endall concept, it is endless. It is not a JOB, we don't have a JOB, we EXPERIENCE only, and that experience is being, WHO WE REALLY ARE, unconditional love. WE are here to experience any and all concepts that make up, unconditional love, which is GOD, of which we are part. (Soul)

That can only be accomplished by martyrdom. Are you ready for the next step? Then you wouldnt be questioning it or trying to understand it.

I am very sorry, but martydom, from my perspective, doesn't have anything to do with unconditional love. That to me is a human term, not an unconditional loving term. It is a limiting term, but this is only my perspective and I respect your perspective.

UNCONditional LOVE is in the DOING not in the studying---as long as you are searching you are not there!
Enjoy the search and dont get so complicated LOVE Carol

From my perspective, LOVE, is limited, but unconditonal love is not. We use the word LOVE here on earth, and that allows us to distort the meaning, of what it means, but if we use the words, unconditional love and understand what that is, we find out that the meaning can't be distorted, that it is only one thing, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.

I respect your perspective, because I respect all perspectives, know matter what it is, this is unconditional love to me. Thank you for your loving input, because it's individuals like yourself, that help us understand WHO WE REALLY ARE, so that we can experience, BEING WHO WE REALLY ARE. Spiritual Scientist RON

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Thank you David,
I only have one thing to add, Now experience it. RON

David Knight said:
Very well stated Ron.


Kiawe Ron said:
Dear Elizabeth,
One of the first things that I need to tell you is, that I talk with my soul and when my soul gives me an answer to a question, I have to change it into words. My soul and I communicate with thoughts, and our language doesn't always have the words to fit our limited language. What an individual needs to know about one's self is that this world is an illusion, that we have created, so that we can experience, WHO WE REALLY ARE. WE ARE ALL ONE, which means that we are all a part of, GOD, the ALL, or what ever higher being you belief inn. So if we are all one, then what is the, All one made of, or is, ????? Well I call this being, GOD, others can call it what ever they chose. Now, GOD, is just one thing, and one thing only, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. WE are here to experience, WHO WE REALLY ARE, so we must be nothing but UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. You see, GOD knows everything that will happen, has happened, or ever going to happen and how it's all put together. The one thing that GOD can't do is EXPERIENCE, what he/she knows, or is. So God created the universe, so that he/she, can experience all that he/she knows. So the GOD head created an ILLUSION, ( the universe), so that he/she can EXPERIENCE all that he/she knows. Well after creating this universe, he sent pieces of him/herself out into the universe, to EXPERIENCE, what he/she knows. This is what is called our SOULS, which makes us part of GOD, which means that we are all one. As we started experiencing all the things that we know, as gods, we started to enjoy all that we were experiencing, and we FORGOT THAT WE WERE A PART OF GOD, and that is where we are today. We have forgotten that we are a part of GOD, and we think that we are a part, of the illusion, which is the universe, as we know it, but in true reality we are living in an illusion, that we have created, and that we are nothing but, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. If you notice, one of the concepts of understanding what UNCONDITIONAL LOVE is, is PERSPECTIVES. This will be one of the BIGGEST tools to you using and practicing, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, in your life. So if you change your PERSPECTIVE, as one who is looking, at this world, from a GOD perspective, then you will start to view it totality different. Most people who you tell to look at this world from a GOD perspective, will start to think of having POWER, CONTROL, MONEY, but the ones who are wise enough to not do that, and think of the true GOD, as nothing but, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, they will be the ones who will, EXPERIENCE, BEING ONE WITH GOD.

So it looks like one of the first things that we have to do, to make this world a better place, is realize, WHO WE REALLY ARE, which is nothing but UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, and look at this world from that PERSPECTIVE.

The problem is, we have forgotten what unconditional love really is, hence we have forgotten, WHO WE REALLY ARE. So a good place to start REMEMBERING, WHO WE REALLY ARE, is finding out what, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE REALLY IS.

Now I have put several things in the forum, for others to read on what unconditional love is, and I am asking others who read this for their input. Please read the information on unconditional love, in the rest of the form to help you understand how to use, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE within your life. ------------------I will put more in this thread, because I realize that this is a lot to digest. RON

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